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Flyer
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Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 05:01 pm GMT:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I always blow out the crotch area on my suits, shorts, and the like. Same problem. a lot of work (walking) in that area, and high stress.


Catsuitguy
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Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 03:40 am GMT:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My suits are made to measure and, yes, I understand the problem with making the armpit area stiffer - it's called a "hardpoint" in engineering. To me the only solution is for the pattern to be altered to give more 'loose' material under the armpits. When the arm is raised high above the head, the area under the armpit would not be over stretched,

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Dark
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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 11:57 pm GMT:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It fails because the skin at the armpit / shoulder stretches more than almost any part of the body. If you examine the range of motion of the shoulder joint you will see that no other part of the human body has such range of motion. Reinforcing by doubling material may be conterproductive. If you make an area that needs to stretch, stiffer.. the adjoining unreinforced area will not be called on to do the stretching and the failure will occur at the boundry. What you actually need is a MORE stretchy, yet stronger material at the area of high stretch demand. Thinner material IS more stretchy, but it is all prone to failure from mico defects and it is all weaker. You have a dilemma there.


Gord
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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 11:50 pm GMT:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Catsuitguy,

Do you go for off-the-peg or made-to-measure? I'm kind of broad shouldered. I remember buying standard sizes and having all sorts of fit and fatigue problems. I've since opted for MTM (cheaper in the long run) from www.kastley.co.uk and have not had this problem since!

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Catsuitguy
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Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 11:30 pm GMT:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wby is it that every catsuit that I buy eventually fails at the armpit? This is true of suits from SOA, Cocoon and Libidex. I am very careful about not using underarm deodorants and I shower bdfore gettig into the suit. I always ask for additional reinforcing for the armpit area and this helps, but eventually the damn thing will split. Repairing that area can be tricky, getting a smooth joint without puckering. It is really annoying having this happen time after time. I guess it must be the high stresses in this area and the complex joints under the arm. Anybody have any thoughts and suggestions?

Catsuitguy

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