.GAS MASKS, Respirators or Rebreathers

[tonyp]

I think I have a modified Israeli mask (by Cosmic-Ware in K?ln), and I use the same hoses and couplers as my S10 and Russian masks. In fact it seems that the hose threads are univeral, though my British S6 mask has a bush on the mask that prevents other filters attaching (though they will attach to others if needed.

Although it ain't the USA, Studio Gum in Vienna have hoses and accessories. I think SG have an agent in the US, but I don't know the name. Pay through the nose I expect too!

T.

[Garlor]

although the hoses on former Eastern bloc masks screw in to the Nato S 6 S 10 and Israeli simplex mask just be aware that they do not form an airtight seal because the thread ends just short of the rubber o ring seal. A rubber washer is needed.

This of course only applies to actual real use of the hoses, for play use a small leak does not matter.( there is a pun somewhere in there)

[Pasphyx]

I think Leto and Dark are right! Wearing a gasmask is making you aware of your breathing, you will feel how important this is to you; in TE it is the only "way to have contact with the non rubber world". The smell of the heavenly rubber and issolation just "touchable", just being "centralized" in rubber gives the thrill.
Also breath can be easily controlled from outside, so you are depending on your partner/someone else, I think a great feeling to both, D & s. Playing with the
airsupply, connections between the masks of partners as the ultimate thrill will
strengthen the above mentioned feelings. This emphatic dependence of breathing/partner is not everybody's business, just for a feeling of TE it is often enough to wear a hood, without tangling respiration. So you have here two complete different kinds of people. Of course as a gasmask-wearer you like also
the "abbreviation" of feelings wearing a hood, in reverse as a hooded one you
do not have to like the more labour needed to wear/play a gasmask, perhaps he dislike even being dependent on airsupply.

[restrictorus]

My favorite masks are a russian with a hose connected to an israeli s10 and a hose from the israeli available to be blocked for rebreathing between partners, connected to a bag, or connected to nitrous oxide. You will have to flip the valves around. What an orgasmic experience. Just be careful!

[latex52]

If you are looking for gasmasks try at ebay - uk or germany - here you can get them at a very valuable price; i've bought there three british s6 and three s 10. But mind the sizes (N is best for the s6; size 2 is best for the s10)
Regards from Austria
Chris

[tonyp]

Whilst the Russian masks fit well on the (my) head, the design does not easily allow the use of a re-breather. It is possible, but the valves would need changing.

The outlet valve is a flap of rubber which opens under pressure from the face and exhausts direct to the atmoshere. (If I were a Soviet Soldier, would I really trust my mask to keep me from being gassed?) This valve can get very noisy when you are 'excited' as it vibrates as it opens. At least it does on mine!

My S6, S10, Israeli and Studio Gum masks do not vibrate noisily. However, apart from the SG masks, I am not sure that they can be used with rebreather equipment without modification.

One point about re-breathing, this is not to be experienced solo since when CO2 narcosis sets in, you may not realise you are starving yourself of oxygen. I suppose someone could invent a mask accessory that detects the CO2 level and switches from rebreathing to normal or compressed air when CO2 reaches critical levels. After all, there are commercial Carbon Monoxide detectors to warn if heating systems have problems.

Tony

[stretch6]

Carbon Monoxide and carbon dioxide are two different chemical substances. One detector will not work for the other. BE CAREFUL!!!!!

[rubberpet]

Unfortunately i've just been to Halfords.

But to my surprise i found upon their shelves a dust mask / respirator with the "cup" portion which encloses the nose and mouth in black rubber with quite tidy elastic straps and clips and it has filters on either side which are grey plastic.

I have until now not been able to find the same mask in black .

I bought one and found the filter holders are just pushed into a 20mm hole in the rubber so i pulled them out and i will fit electrical grommets which are black - available in hardware shops, to the holes.
This will just leave the non return valve in the centre present which i will paint black.
I reckon some breathing pipes might also be in order or the diaphragm could be removed from the non return valve to get a two way airflow.

Pop down and get one if you like, they are ?24.99 and see how much fun you can have accessorising it.

enjoy.

[Gord]

Unfortunately i've just been to Halfords.

"Unfortunately" I too have got to go to that place this week, so I'll check it out!

Pop down and get one if you like, they are ?24.99 and see how much fun you can have accessorising it.

It's the accessorising idea that appeals to me! Apart from the obvious lengths of tubing, we could have had holly or a cotton-wool beard at Christmas, maybe a tartan ribbon for our Scots friends, attached shades for the summer. Fnar, fnar!

Gord.

[Rubberwalker]

Hello All,

I hope this is in the correct thread!

I bought a Rebreather Conversion Kit to fit an Israeli Gas Mask from BDG Sales in the states.
http://www.bdgsales.com/bcsetups.html

I am aware of the dangers involved in using this type of thing and would never use one whilst alone.

My question is, how do I fill the re-breather bag with air in the first place when we want to use it?? I knwo that seems an odd question! Do I need some sort of little pump, attached to a hose with a tap half way? Then the bag could be fileld up, tap turned off, and off you go.

Any advice/tips gratefully received.

Best wishes,

Fiona
Rubberwalekr